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Gender bias of societal perceptions/tolerance (v2)?

And is the move towards more gender equality for men expressive freedom (predominantly in modern East-Asian countries) a good thing? Let me state an instance which is familiar to me, which I think is an effective means to make the point (due to the [i]still[/i] rather highly "taboo" nature of it in our today's society):- In Cosplaying culture (i.e. where people dresses up as their favourite Japanese Comic-book/Anime/VideoGame characters), females frequently dresses up as male characters and is accepted:- i.e. From a quick google... Females crossplaying as male characters of the popular Manga/Anime Naruto (that is a buddhist symbol, and not the Nazi sign btw) http://www.selectsmart.com/DISCUSS/file.php?33,file=134,filename=Naruto-Cosplay-2.jpg http://www.selectsmart.com/DISCUSS/file.php?33,file=131,filename=313302396_4292bc679c.jpg or perhaps some might be familiar of characters in the recent 3D Anime movie, Final Fantasy VII (Advent Children) crossplayed by 24 year old chinese cosplayer, MeiWai (?) http://www.selectsmart.com/DISCUSS/file.php?33,file=128,filename=yazoo1.jpg ...etc However, less frequently, when a guy crossplays as a female character, just for fun:- i.e. http://www.selectsmart.com/DISCUSS/file.php?33,file=133,filename=bearded_cosplay02.jpg It is frequently not even tolerated and people can get really nasty in response to it. Ok, kidding aside, there are actually some well-executed convincing male --> female crossplays too: This one's by a male cosplayer from Japan crossplaying a female character (Ash) from the video-game KingOfFighters http://www.selectsmart.com/DISCUSS/file.php?33,file=124,filename=ash.jpg here's another one of the same character by a different cosplayer participant (left). http://www.selectsmart.com/DISCUSS/file.php?33,file=138,filename=1999057.jpg This one's by a famous 21 year old male cosplayer in China. http://www.selectsmart.com/DISCUSS/file.php?33,file=136,filename=1232pl.jpg Not sure of the rest, but they are all by guys too:- http://www.selectsmart.com/DISCUSS/file.php?33,file=125,filename=1846686wg.jpg http://www.selectsmart.com/DISCUSS/file.php?33,file=126,filename=CrossPlaying.jpg http://www.selectsmart.com/DISCUSS/file.php?33,file=137,filename=Crossplay4.jpg But even some of them are being called "gay" (with an offensive intent) or might even risk getting threatened or bullied when they are seen outside of their the "cosplaying convention" area, while the female --> male crossplayers were deemed acceptable. ----------------------------------- But a substantially "milder" (less "shock-value" perhaps) example would be that guys spotted wearing a "pink" coloured shirt, etc for instance would immediately be regarded as "gay" (in a bad way, meant to offend). Whereas females are not restricted to any colours that they wear. Also, men are also frequently restrict to the type of music that are acceptable to listen to or the type of drinks they are allowed to get in a bar. Men were trained to feels ashamed and embarrassed if they do something which society consider as "unmacho", such as drinking at the pub with straws. In the work place or schools, the dress code for males also tend to be more restricted (i.e. short hair, suit and pants)..etc Then there's the over-the-top movement against male skinny jeans, or metrosexualism, etc in an attempt to control and restrict what other guys are allowed to freely wear to express themselves in terms of fashion, and there are a lot more instances that can be stated, and not to mention of the constant labelling of things by some people as "gay"; i.e. Idiots that go, "like oh my god, like that is so ~gay, oh my god!!!". I think all these examples illustrate the strong expectation existing for modern-males to conform to the hyper machismo mould (especially so in the western world due to strong machismo media influences), and are expected to strictly adhere to it. And this IMO [u]might[/u] also be one of the (but not absolute) root causes for people's intolerance towards "homosexual" people. Where some people's intolerance towards gay people, requires that they also be against lesbians for consistency. Frequently it is merely due to people resisting and fearing something that is "different" or do not currently fit in with what is currently perceive to be the "norm".' and fuelled by the current irrational cultural-taboo of the respective societies. Certain unjustifiable taboos (which differs from cultures to cultures, i.e. following from the first example, crossplaying for guys are quite acceptable in Japan/Taiwan/etc but not in the more Western-influenced Singapore) impose unnecessary conformity and restricts freedom for people to simply be who they are just so that they can "fit in" (i.e. guys frequently felt pressured to act tough and pretend to be "macho" and not able to freely show their emotions or fear). Some macho-heads might even feel that the mere discussion Here are two interesting articles highlighting the growing gender roles reversal in East Asian societies, influenced by Japanese modern culture progression/evolution. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article6898611.ece http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/19/style/19iht-fslim.1.8387017.html Quote: "I think its nice that there are more options for men--they can be strong and "masculine" if they prefer, but now also have the option to be "cute" and "feminine" if that's who they truely are. Likewise, it seems the women now have a choice of maintaining the old role of "cute" and "slender" while others can be the "protector" and "strong." People should be allowed to be who they want to be, and pick a mate who likes/attracted to those qualities." The response seem to indicate that I am "against" this. Please not that I am not. I actually embraces this and hope that the world outside East Asia would also be open to more expressive freedom for men. Enigma: You grouping ALL men together and accusing us all to be sexist just because we were born as males IS sexist.

Public Comments

1. I agree that gay folk should be treated like everyone else and not be persecuted and discriminated against, but that doesn't mean you have to try to turn all men into a bunch of puffs. Men are masculine because the majority of men are naturally masculine. Trying to force men to act like effeminate homosexuals will only harm men, not "free" them from heterosexuality, err, I mean "rigid masculine gender roles." The underlying idea is that men are superior to women, and that is why it has always been cute when women crossdress, and I think it is a threat to some men's masculinity when they see other men crossdressing, and they react with hostility and attempt to force those wussy-men to conform to their idea of what it means to be a man. Women are still women and are still limited and controlled by their genetic gender predispositions, just like men are, so you people trying to pretend that masculine and feminine roles are interchangeable are only injuring all people and making them unhappy by trying to force masculinity on women and effeminacy on men.
2. What is wrong with you? You and other men are crying "sexism". You are the sexist. What is your probliem?
3. Hi Gabriel: You really need to let your hair down and relax. Stop being so concerned about others and live your life as you will.
4. REAL MAN ARE BIG HAIRY AND MACHO WITH MASSIVE JAWLINES AND THICK BULKY HAIRY BODIES. YOU EAST ASIAN MEN ARE SO UNHAIRY AND UNMACHO LOOKING. I FEEL LIKE BEATING UP YOU SISSIES WITH MY THINK HAIRY MACHO SEXY ARM!!!